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Re: Put on the saddest song

Postby dystopika » January 19th, 2012, 4:25 pm

dare i say it:
For me, when I'm "triggered" by music or anything else and I end up letting my emotions out, it's an intense mix of catharsis and terror that I feel. So I can't say whether it feels good or bad--it's a lot of both.


What's the "terror"? Is it the loss of control? Is there no sense of burdens lifted in the aftermath?
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Re: Put on the saddest song

Postby dare i say it » January 20th, 2012, 6:23 pm

dystopika wrote:What's the "terror"? Is it the loss of control? Is there no sense of burdens lifted in the aftermath?

Fair question. It is about control, in a way. I guess, sometimes, after I've cried there is a sense of relief, but that feeling is not strong and not consistently there. What is always there is a bitter feeling of powerlessness that I couldn't control my emotions even though I wanted to, a profound fear that when my emotions are driving the bus they might lead me to do or say something that I can't take back, and an overwhelming dread that I've just opened Pandora's box and the agony of the experience will never end.

I'm not sure how much of this is stuff that other people have been through, but at this point I have a really, really hard time regulating my emotions. I can go from 0 to 10 in a few seconds. I don't trust myself when I'm acting on emotion, and it's hard for me to feel a strong emotion and not act on it. I'm working on it though. I'll get there.
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Re: Put on the saddest song

Postby manuel_moe_g » January 23rd, 2012, 5:40 pm

dare i say it wrote:but at this point I have a really, really hard time regulating my emotions. I can go from 0 to 10 in a few seconds.

For me it is not emotion, it is rage. Giving yourself permission to drop out and leave the room is helpful.
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Re: Put on the saddest song

Postby cranialspasm » February 18th, 2012, 10:58 pm

Singing is an incredible therapy for me, so when I can blurt out some Billie or some Ella, I feel like my pain is justified.
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Re: Put on the saddest song

Postby ihavechappedlips » February 19th, 2012, 1:20 am

I find that the more I invest in music and put myself into songs... the worse my depression is.
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Re: Put on the saddest song

Postby dare i say it » February 20th, 2012, 8:53 am

ihavechappedlips wrote:I find that the more I invest in music and put myself into songs... the worse my depression is.

It's good to know that about yourself. It's good to focus on what works. So, what does work for you?
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Re: Put on the saddest song

Postby algernon » February 20th, 2012, 7:55 pm

Sad Music and tears.....from reading this interesting thread I realize that promoting tears for many is a good purging of pent up stress and fear that can ease depression if only for a bit and music can be the useful tool to make it so. I've always welcomed tears as a remarkable physical release that really makes me feel better when crying ends. In fact a few times I've been comforted by my G F or mother with their well meaning words like, "don't cry, it'll be alright".....and I sometimes semi-laugh through the tears as I respond with......"I want to cry, the tears feel so good".......so when you comfort someone, instead consider encouraging them to cry and let it all go. (and if appropriate, a huge hug added will REALLY let the person wail freely which is nature's ticket to an emotional regrouping).

For me, I don't seek a catalyst to get the benefits of a good cry. Sooner or later it comes randomly when the elements are all there and often it's a song when I'm trucking and recent events have me conditioned to tear-up and then I ride the wave like a fast sailor and it feels real good. I always thank nature for the built in release mechanism.

I can understand the daily flow of sad and unwelcome emotional triggers that hook into some people and how easily it can be a relentless struggle. Long ago, I read some advice about getting past a bad romantic breakup that included avoiding emotional songs and other markings of the relationship so the healing can be promoted and this made sense to me. When my marriage failed I was tortured by every demon association that I could conjure with a doomsday sense of helplessness, but in my case way back then I was so UN-empowered and self-flagellating so what else could I do but wallow as a victim? That was the worst time of my life in 1987, ending a good ten years or more of being stuck in the mud. Funny thing, but I quit smoking in 1987, a most superb self improvement........we are strange and wonderful creatures.

My niece is diagnosed as bi-polar and she is so very very intelligent. She is a dependable resource for all things psychological/pharma-logical but she would trade that all to be mentally stable we can be sure. It was my niece who drove me to understand that no matter how many self-help books, pep talks, therapy sessions, comfort extravaganzas, religious incantations, flowers and sunshine and the attention of any well-meaning loved one, those that have a depression producing bio-chemical imbalance will not be liberated by any such outside efforts. I must absolutely bow to my niece's case-making, but............

I always come back to make a statement for the ability to make a choice that will make the misery LESS.....even if it's just turning off the radio so that song that tears you apart is gone, or playing a song that makes you cry for the cleansing effect of human tears.......

In closing, I fully respect the experiences well stated in this forum, that people with certain mental states cannot simply cheer themselves up and snap out of it, that they have the bio-chemical hand of cards no one wants..... I pick up pennies whenever I see them, knowing that some people leave them if they fall or even throw them away......but me, I pick them up and save them knowing that the material meaning at the end of my life will be the same as if I didn't......but I will ALWAYS do this. It's with this Quixotic compulsion that I wish all can act in habitual self-compassion, exercising CHOICE....outside the unfortunate grip of a bio-chemical based depression.
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Re: Put on the saddest song

Postby manuel_moe_g » February 21st, 2012, 12:11 pm

Thanks for writing this, Algernon, great to see you in the forum! :)
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Re: Put on the saddest song

Postby Frootsy Collins » March 6th, 2012, 2:42 am

There's certain types of sad music that can have a different effect on people depending on how it engages with the sadness, I think. An emo metal song can make you wallow in self-pity, while a great blues or soul song can make you relate to the sadness differently, almost taking a kind of pride or recharge of energy from it, if that makes sense.
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Re: Put on the saddest song

Postby PeyoteUgly » March 21st, 2012, 8:56 am

good call on that Weakerthans song...crushing.
other songs that destroy me:
Hum - 'apollo'
Crooked Fingers - "new drink for the old drunk"
Jawbreaker - "accident prone"
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