Sad and scared and in need of advice.

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Re: Sad and scared and in need of advice.

Postby dare i say it » January 22nd, 2012, 7:19 pm

BCZF wrote:Christ, I don't know...
I totally understand the uncertainty. I've never felt so lost and confused as I have lately. It's awful to be in a tough spot and not know what to do.
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Re: Sad and scared and in need of advice.

Postby manuel_moe_g » January 23rd, 2012, 5:30 pm

BCZF wrote:But do I facilitate bad behavior IE: buying him cigarettes and soda just to appease

I still think you are an awesome father. You are making a compromise for his ultimate best future, just as a father should.
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Re: Sad and scared and in need of advice.

Postby MCspeaks » April 5th, 2012, 3:00 pm

:cry: I feel for your son, and I also sympathize with you. Not sure how the situation has progressed, but in all my own emotional turmoil (lots of anger, some drinking, mostly sleeping and retreating) the best thing that my parents could do for me was be there. Even when I was angry at them for whatever reason, just saying, "Look, I realize I may not understand what you're going through, but I'm here anytime you want to talk." Unfortunately, there's a lot that I needed to work out on my own first before I got to the place where I was ready to share with other people. A lot of adolescent angst, even now when I'm almost 26. I can't relate as a parent, since I'm not, because I'm really afraid to have my own kids for fear of seeing them suffer with depression. I think if you just keep showing your support in as many ways as you can then hopefully one day, he will come to you.
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Re: Sad and scared and in need of advice.

Postby BCZF » May 24th, 2012, 11:20 am

My son and I had a fight in my car today. He had been drinking and out all night.. I was lecturing him, which granted wasnt smart, but as a parent I feel I have to enforce/do SOMETHING..

Anyway we were in my car he insulted me I pulled over and attempted to kick him out of my car.. He punched me and pulled ff my sunglasses, broke off the handle, and stabbed me in the back of the neck with the sharp end, then stabbed me in my ear (shades of Godfather III).. I now have 3 garnishments on my paycheck so the prospect of me moving is slim for the time being..

Im broken.. And Im tired...of all of it.

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Re: Sad and scared and in need of advice.

Postby fifthsonata » June 5th, 2012, 7:50 am

I know this thread is dated, but I do feel compelled to reply.


First, I know it's not a consolation but it hurts to read this. For both you and your child - not helpful, but I know in some moments you don't need words to make things better, sometimes you just need someone to cry with you.


I know it will be hard for me to offer realistic advice because I don't have children, but I know that children often act out when they don't have the cognitive ability to....maybe understand or control the emotions or thoughts in their heads. He doesn't know how to say "I'm hurting" and is instead acting out to express this type of emotion. Maybe he's been hurting long enough that this is his only way of coping, and this has been his only outlet that has served to alleviate the anguish in his head. The other attempts he made, maybe they didn't work. Addictions and risky behavior....they do.


I read that you have him seeing a therapist and have him on medication - have you considered trying a new therapist? Maybe one that specializes in treating adolescents, or one that specializes in the behavior he's engaging in now.


However, I'm going to throw in a personal story of my own. I know it's not the same situation, but I hope the outcome gives you a little hope.


My brother is six years older than me. In his early 20s, he went to a large city to go to college. He was a party boy, drank and did drugs excessively, was promiscuous, and landed in a lot of trouble. This went on for several years - he destroyed his credit and racked up debt, was arrested several times, and I suspect he got involved in dealing drugs. He constantly called my mom to bail him out or loan him money, and finally, she couldn't do it anymore. His behaviors were hurting her so desperately - and my mom told me she had to make the decision to either keep bailing him out, or let him suffer the consequences.


She finally let him suffer the consequences. The hurt and look on her face when she told me this - it was the hardest decision she ever had to make. She had been trying to help him the best she could - offering him constant love, money when he needed it, a lawyer to get him out of jail, and a shoulder to cry on. The last time he got arrested, she didn't bail him out. It was hard for him - this action made him finally realize that he had to get himself out of the situation. He moved home again and started from scratch.



It took her letting him go to learn what his life had become. Mom had to step back and let him fall - she never abandoned him, but she let him suffer the consequences and that's what it took for him to get his act together. She took him back home and helped him rebuild his life. Now the boy....well let's just say he's better off than my mother and me, combined, jeez.



Why did I throw that story in? Well, it's an example of how people can indeed turn their lives around - but also, sometimes the best thing we can do for someone is love them unconditionally, provide them security and give them a shoulder to cry on, but let come to you on their own terms. It sounds to me like you've given him the common sense to realize that what he's doing is wrong (he's openly bragging to you about his drug use - if he didn't realize it was wrong, he wouldn't care enough to say it). You're doing everything you can and it's now up to him.


You can also be the example - getting help for yourself. Making it known to him that you're actively trying to help yourself. Let him know it's okay to need help sometimes.


Most importantly, always let him know he's loved. That you will be there for him, regardless of what he's done, and you will do anything in your power to ensure he can get his life back on track when he's ready.
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Re: Sad and scared and in need of advice.

Postby manuel_moe_g » June 6th, 2012, 1:03 pm

We all love you, BCZF/John. I am so glad fifthsonata replied to you, could write something so much better than anything I could have written. Please know we love you, please take care, you don't deserve this burden, and we are all praying for you.
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